Now see I was a little surprised that when people were talking about the second season and laughing about how bad it was before the finale, because that never came up and THAT was one of my big issues about the series (along with "Uh Ciel? why are you suddenly shooting people in the head and being even more ruthless then ever? Don't you at least... slowly build up to being ruthless?). SO! IT'S GOOD TO KNOW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THAT.
I love a good Faust story, I do! That's why I picked up the series. However in a good Faust story has that underlying layer of feeling "off" at any given moment, save for the genuinely sweet moments that enhances those bright spots even more. Love Kuroshituji as I do (and I do, weakness for Victorian manga get), that undercurrent of wrongness doesn't show up. When it does it feels a bit like it's reminding us "oh hey, remember that this is a Faust story?" in kind of that way that Shadow Hearts sometimes reminds us that "by the way this has roots in a Lovecraftian setting". Sometimes that gentle reminder after luling us into a false sense of security is awesome and I like that about the manga, but I think Alois' storyline plays it straight and I like that too and even a little bit more then how the manga handles it.
I'd say because it's a typical Faust story going up the manga's idea of a Faust story that I think one of them's going to suffer. In this case Sebastian and Ciel became molded into characters that you'd find in one of the older legends, manipulative, ruthless and in the end nobody other then Ciel and Alois are happy. I agree with the idea that this is fundamentally a bad thing. If you have to force a character to be ooc so they can fit, then the story really shouldn't have them as main characters. On one hand I can see why they'd have the main two in there, but I do wish that they'd had them just as periphery characters and have the Trancy household at center stage.
That makes me feel a lot better actually! And while I liked the resolution of Alois and Claude, I'll admit that if I was watching the show as an extension of the manga I'd be pissed. In the end though I'd separated it from the mangaverse around... oh, the end of season one. It was a magical AU land where the characters might act different and it had it's own themes. This post was more "A friend just non-stop spewed hate and judging on me about it, and the chat log makes me feel like I'm completely wrong and a Bad Fan :(. HERE ARE MY REASONS, a-am I a bad fan?"
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I love a good Faust story, I do! That's why I picked up the series. However in a good Faust story has that underlying layer of feeling "off" at any given moment, save for the genuinely sweet moments that enhances those bright spots even more. Love Kuroshituji as I do (and I do, weakness for Victorian manga get), that undercurrent of wrongness doesn't show up. When it does it feels a bit like it's reminding us "oh hey, remember that this is a Faust story?" in kind of that way that Shadow Hearts sometimes reminds us that "by the way this has roots in a Lovecraftian setting". Sometimes that gentle reminder after luling us into a false sense of security is awesome and I like that about the manga, but I think Alois' storyline plays it straight and I like that too and even a little bit more then how the manga handles it.
I'd say because it's a typical Faust story going up the manga's idea of a Faust story that I think one of them's going to suffer. In this case Sebastian and Ciel became molded into characters that you'd find in one of the older legends, manipulative, ruthless and in the end nobody other then Ciel and Alois are happy. I agree with the idea that this is fundamentally a bad thing. If you have to force a character to be ooc so they can fit, then the story really shouldn't have them as main characters. On one hand I can see why they'd have the main two in there, but I do wish that they'd had them just as periphery characters and have the Trancy household at center stage.
That makes me feel a lot better actually! And while I liked the resolution of Alois and Claude, I'll admit that if I was watching the show as an extension of the manga I'd be pissed. In the end though I'd separated it from the mangaverse around... oh, the end of season one. It was a magical AU land where the characters might act different and it had it's own themes. This post was more "A friend just non-stop spewed hate and judging on me about it, and the chat log makes me feel like I'm completely wrong and a Bad Fan :(. HERE ARE MY REASONS, a-am I a bad fan?"