First off I'd like to ask: where did I say that the game was becoming a hivemind? In a lot of ways the voting/abstaining tendencies of the people can be similar sometimes, but they come to those conclusions on their own, much like how some people may feel about the series. There is an issue with canonblind people folowing whatever the majority vote is at the moment, but that issue doesn't pertain to the wank.
You'll note that I AM using the word wank (and kerfuffle and so on) as I've heard from one person who read the wank and felt it was pretty damn bad, and another one who was in the same boat with her. At the moment I don't know what was really said, and your opinion is your opinion, but right now I'm more likely to agree with the person who told me some of the actual comments. I could be entirely wrong here, but a) I don't have access to it myself to judge properly and b) I'm going with the majority/most complete knowledge I've got of the matter.
I have no problem with people abstaining with controversial series, it's a hell of a lot better then voting out and then coming up with a BS reason for doing it. But it can sometimes lead to a problem with an obscure or controversial series. In more then one case I've seen an obscure/controversial app be the only one that ends up being the one that keeps the round from closing. In that case you get people who vote just to get the damn batch closed and may or may not give the app the attention it deserves... or may go with popular opinion in the votes/comments. (here's also my problem with some of the concrit-that-isn't-really-concrit comments that happens sometimes, but again that's another issue). It's an amazingly tricky issue and it leaves me feeling very uneasy about apping/not apping from that series either way.
And I don't want to rush the mods, that's why I suggested a "we're still looking at this issue, but we just wanted to give you a heads' up" post. I know there's been communication because one of the players mentioned that a mod had talked to/reassured them. Trust me when I say that if I had a problem with how mods do things, I would have called them on it in a chicken soup post long ago. But a little gesture would make me feel less tense as well. The people on the inside aren't the only ones who are stressed/affected by what's going on.
After all that I feel it's... a bit of a cop out to say "OMG EVERYONE'S INNOCENT GAIZ" because. well. Everyone is responsible for how they may act. I don't really blame the mods, I think there's something more they could be doing, but they've got such a good track record that a few mistakes can slide. As for blaming the person who began the discussion, whatever they said was incendiary enough to get people riled up, but seeing as I haven't read it I'm reserving my opinion. However saying that she may be completely innocent is like me saying that any wank that could have occurred from my Hetalia essay isn't my fault. I wrote it, I opened that can of worms, and other people were free to comment on it, and I responded to people that may/may not have egged them on. They may not be responsible for what happens in voting, but they may have been partially responsible for causing the wank in the first place.
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You'll note that I AM using the word wank (and kerfuffle and so on) as I've heard from one person who read the wank and felt it was pretty damn bad, and another one who was in the same boat with her. At the moment I don't know what was really said, and your opinion is your opinion, but right now I'm more likely to agree with the person who told me some of the actual comments. I could be entirely wrong here, but a) I don't have access to it myself to judge properly and b) I'm going with the majority/most complete knowledge I've got of the matter.
I have no problem with people abstaining with controversial series, it's a hell of a lot better then voting out and then coming up with a BS reason for doing it. But it can sometimes lead to a problem with an obscure or controversial series. In more then one case I've seen an obscure/controversial app be the only one that ends up being the one that keeps the round from closing. In that case you get people who vote just to get the damn batch closed and may or may not give the app the attention it deserves... or may go with popular opinion in the votes/comments. (here's also my problem with some of the concrit-that-isn't-really-concrit comments that happens sometimes, but again that's another issue). It's an amazingly tricky issue and it leaves me feeling very uneasy about apping/not apping from that series either way.
And I don't want to rush the mods, that's why I suggested a "we're still looking at this issue, but we just wanted to give you a heads' up" post. I know there's been communication because one of the players mentioned that a mod had talked to/reassured them. Trust me when I say that if I had a problem with how mods do things, I would have called them on it in a chicken soup post long ago. But a little gesture would make me feel less tense as well. The people on the inside aren't the only ones who are stressed/affected by what's going on.
After all that I feel it's... a bit of a cop out to say "OMG EVERYONE'S INNOCENT GAIZ" because. well. Everyone is responsible for how they may act. I don't really blame the mods, I think there's something more they could be doing, but they've got such a good track record that a few mistakes can slide. As for blaming the person who began the discussion, whatever they said was incendiary enough to get people riled up, but seeing as I haven't read it I'm reserving my opinion. However saying that she may be completely innocent is like me saying that any wank that could have occurred from my Hetalia essay isn't my fault. I wrote it, I opened that can of worms, and other people were free to comment on it, and I responded to people that may/may not have egged them on. They may not be responsible for what happens in voting, but they may have been partially responsible for causing the wank in the first place.